First episode of Meghan Markle’s podcast Archetypes has finally been released.


In the first episode of her “Archetypes” podcast, which was just made available on Spotify, Meghan Markle took aim at individuals who criticized her for being “ambitious” when she first began dating Prince Harry.

In an interview titled “The Misconception of Ambition with Serena Williams,” the Duchess of Sussex discussed the unfair expectations women face when they are called “ambitious” with the tennis pro, who is also one of her close friends.

Now, see, I’m not Catholic, Meghan remarked. I did not grow up Catholic. But following my letter-writing effort, I began middle school at Immaculate Heart approximately a year later (in Los Angeles). Through high school, I remained there. I spent six years there. This feminist mindset also permeated almost every facet of my schooling.

I think it’s reasonable to say that it permeates all facet of my existence. It was made very apparent to me and my classmates that we had unlimited potential as young ladies. Ambition. That was the entire goal, after all.

So until I began dating my future spouse, I don’t recall ever sensing the negative connotation associated with the term “ambitious.” Furthermore, ambition seems to be a bad, awful thing. some people claim that is, for a lady.

It’s quite difficult to unfeel it now that I’ve experienced the negative behind it. The millions of girls and women who regularly make themselves considerably smaller are another group in whom I am unable to unsee it.

“So I wanted to speak to someone who personifies the spirit of ambition to see how she feels about the term and the meaning, and how the other numerous labels that impact all women have influenced her too,” says the interviewer.

In her conversation with Williams, Meghan added: “You feel the suffering that I’m going through behind closed doors, even when you have to witness things that are mischaracterizing of me.

“What I find fascinating is that, although taking place on a global scale, I doubt any woman would experience it very differently. How would you feel if you were in a small town and someone was saying something about your closest buddy that was simply flat-out false?

They’ve all in some way suffered the brunt of the labels we’ll be tearing apart, and of course I know a thing or two about these labels myself, Meghan added in reference to her guests, who also include Mariah Carey next week.

Williams, 40, and Meghan, 41, both offered personal anecdotes about their hardships as first-time moms.

The Duchess once recalled how her son Archie, who was meant to be asleep during the Sussexes’ tour to South Africa, just barely survived a fire in his bedroom.

Serena Williams is featured in Meghan Markle’s long-awaited podcast, which was just posted on Spotify.

When the heater in the nursery caught fire in the meanwhile, Archie’s then-nanny, Lauren, who only went by the name Lauren, had brought the four and a half-month-old with her downstairs instead while she went to buy a snack.

The heater in the nursery caught fire in the time she was downstairs, according to Meghan. Smoke detectors were not present. Someone entered after smelling smoke down the corridor and put out the fire. It was intended for him to be sleeping there.

After arriving on their official tour, the former Suits actress described how they dropped off their little boy at the housing complex they were staying in so he could get some rest before Meghan and the Duke of Sussex left to make a visit to the Nyanga township, where the duchess gave a speech.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle at the Invictus Games The Hague 2020 at Zuiderpark in the Netherlands on April 16, 2022

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle at the Invictus Games The Hague 2020 at Zuiderpark in the Netherlands on April 16, 2022

When I was making my speech to ladies and girls, I was standing on a tree stump. After the engagement, we got in the vehicle, and they told us that the house had caught fire. What? The baby’s room has caught fire, she remarked.

We returned, said Meghan. Naturally, as a mother, you think, “Oh, my God, what?” Everyone is in tears and is distraught. What must we do, then? do another formal engagement while you’re out? This doesn’t make any sense, I said.

In the episode, Harry also makes an appearance, to whom Meghan says: “You want to come say hi? Check out who just walked in.

Meghan Markle and Serena Williams in New York City in 2014

Meghan Markle and Serena Williams in New York City in 2014

Serena Williams and Meghan Markle in 2014 in New York City

Serena Williams and her husband Alexis Ohanian at Windsor Castle for Meghan and Prince Harry's wedding in May 2018

Serena Williams and her husband Alexis Ohanian at Windsor Castle for Meghan and Prince Harry's wedding in May 2018

Serena Williams and her husband Alexis Ohanian at Windsor Castle for Meghan and Prince Harry’s wedding in May 2018

In British accents, Williams and Meghan say “Hello” to Harry, who replies, “I appreciate what you’ve done with your hair.” That feels so good.

Williams responds, “I’m grateful. As usual, it’s nice to see you. I miss you folks.

The duke replies, “Well, come and visit us,” to which Meghan replies that they will come up with a plan.

Thank you, my love, Meghan says as Harry walks away.

Williams also stated that Harry spent an hour talking with her about her choice to retire from tennis before it was officially publicized.

“I think, you know, I think two of us, or the three of us, truly recognize that sometimes the correct option isn’t the simplest one,” said Meghan, a senior working royal who left the monarchy.

It takes a lot more guts, in my opinion, to quit something than to keep going at times, she said to Williams.

The pair’s Spotify podcast will finally launch this summer, the Archewell Foundation said earlier this year. This comes 18 months after the couple signed the hefty arrangement.

Meghan, the host of Archetypes, will interview historians, subject matter experts, and women who have been stereotyped.

The duchess stated: “This is how we speak about women: the words that raise our daughters, and how the media reflects women back to us” in an earlier teaser for the Archewell Audio project. But from whence do these cliches originate? How do they continue to influence our lives and appear in them?

The Duchess continued, giving a sneak peek at the sorts of guests that would appear: “This is Archetypes, the podcast where we analyze, investigate, and disrupt the categories that attempt to limit women.”

I’ll speak with women who are all too aware of how these stereotypes influence our narratives. Additionally, I’ll consult historians to learn how we came to be here.

In late 2020, Meghan and Harry agreed to a lucrative arrangement with the leading podcast producer and presenter that is said to be worth over £18 million.

However, they had only ever published one program before this one, a Christmas special in December 2020 that included their son Archie and famous guests.

Meghan has always advocated for women’s rights. Her chats with typecast women were characterized as “uncensored” by Spotify and Archewell Audio, who also claimed that the duchess will dive into the roots of stereotypes.

Along with Rebecca Sananes, the director of audio at Archewell, and Ben Browning, the head of content, former Suits actress Meghan serves as an executive producer on the show.

Gimlet Media and Archewell Audio are working together to develop the podcast for Spotify.


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