Carrie Bickmore disagrees with Waleed Aly’s demand to replace the queen with a ‘undemocratic’ indigenous elder

Carrie Bickmore disagrees with Waleed Aly’s demand to replace the queen with a ‘undemocratic’ indigenous elder


Waleed Aly’s suggestion for an Indigenous elder to replace Queen Elizabeth II as Australia’s head of state has prompted disagreement among his co-hosts on The Project.

Waleed Aly has led calls for an Indigenous elder to replace the Queen's as Australia's head of state. Pictured are  protestors denouncing colonialisation at a Sydney rally on Australia's National Day of Mourning for the Queen

Waleed Aly has led calls for an Indigenous elder to replace the Queen's as Australia's head of state. Pictured are  protestors denouncing colonialisation at a Sydney rally on Australia's National Day of Mourning for the Queen


The monarchy vs republic debate has been resurrected in Australia as the official mourning period ends two weeks after the death of the Queen.

As Australians observed the National Day of Mourning on Thursday, Aly proposed as an alternative to a monarch or president that Australia’s future head of state be an Indigenous elder.

Carrie Bickmore (right) disagreed with The Project co-host Waleed Aly's bold proposal

Carrie Bickmore (right) disagreed with The Project co-host Waleed Aly's bold proposal

However, co-host Carrie Bickmore disagreed, stating that people still desire constancy after 70 years of having a Queen.

Aly feels that if Australians are had to give up the monarchy, it must be replaced with something more appropriate and mystical.

Aly added, “An Australian President lacks the sense of continuity, history, and ritual that we’ll be replacing.”

Waleed Aly has spearheaded the charge for an Indigenous elder to replace the Queen as the head of state in Australia. At a Sydney gathering on Australia’s National Day of Mourning for the Queen, shown are protesters who denounced colonialism.

If we are to accomplish this, we must draw on our own sources of tradition, ceremony, and spirituality.

A self-proclaimed republican, Aly views the monarchy as rooted in history, custom, and ritual.

Australia commemorated its National Day of Mourning for the Queen, who died a fortnight ago

Australia commemorated its National Day of Mourning for the Queen, who died a fortnight ago

In short, monarchy serves as a counterbalance to government. It operates because it is anti-democratic and imposes comparatively few restrictions on citizens,’ he said.

It is powerful precisely due to the fact that it has no real power. The Queen was adored due to the fact that she was frequently silent and frequently a blank canvas.

Walled Aly believes if Australians are asked to forgo the monarch, it needs to be replaced with something more fitting but magical, such as an Indigenous Elder appointed as head of state

Walled Aly believes if Australians are asked to forgo the monarch, it needs to be replaced with something more fitting but magical, such as an Indigenous Elder appointed as head of state

He pushed for the appointment of a recognized Indigenous elder as our head of state, who would already be rooted in a rich history and ceremonious culture.

Aly said, “One of the nice things about some Indigenous ceremonies, such as Welcome to nation, is that they are frequently informal.”

This amazing blend of formality and informality exemplifies something special and endearing about the Australian personality.

“We could even name our elders Uncle or Aunty, and when our Aunty dies, we would have have rites of grieving ready to embrace as a nation”

Britain's King Charles III , Camilla, the Queen Consort, Princess Anne, and Prince Andrew, from left, standing together during the state funeral service of Queen Elizabeth II in central London, England, Monday Sept. 19, 2022

Britain's King Charles III , Camilla, the Queen Consort, Princess Anne, and Prince Andrew, from left, standing together during the state funeral service of Queen Elizabeth II in central London, England, Monday Sept. 19, 2022

Carrie Bickmore (right) opposed The Project co-host Waleed Aly’s audacious suggestion.

Australia observed the National Day of Mourning for the late Queen, who passed away two weeks ago.

He acknowledged that the office would be racially exclusive, but pointed out that the monarchy, which will always be white and excludes white Catholics, is also racially exclusive.

He continued, “It is also undemocratic because it replicates precisely one of the monarchy’s characteristics.”

‘Sure, I can see problems. How, for instance, would the elder be selected from the hundreds of First Nations we have? It rotates in a preset manner.

Our head of state must be apolitical, addressing only on matters where there is complete consensus. Would the senior face an excessive amount of pressure to become an activist?

While disputably ours, it conveys a little of the splendor and mystique of monarchy.

Carrie Bickmore, co-host, disagreed that the monarchy is consistent.

She stated, “We’ve had a Queen for 70 years, so all the phrases of dignity and consistency and all that pertain to her for many people.”

Bickmore thinks that any proposals to abolish the monarchy are premature.

Walled Aly believes that if Australians are urged to renounce the monarchy, it should be replaced by something more appropriate and mystical, such as an Indigenous Elder as head of state.

Georgie Tunny added, ‘It’s interesting to have this discussion because I believe it’s an exciting concept to have something without a precedence at the moment.

“I have serious doubts that something like that could be apolitical. I cannot imagine a state leader who is not political.

Peter Helliar characterized the concept as intriguing.

Aly stated that his suggestion is merely a “think starter” and is not foolproof out of respect for the monarchy.

“It’s a conversation point; I’m not necessarily proposing it as a solution,” he remarked.

“However, I believe that there is room for improvement. It immediately occurred to me in the middle of the night that there is something there that needs to be maintained.

Monday, September 19, 2022, in central London, England: King Charles III, Camilla, the Queen Consort, Princess Anne, and Prince Andrew, from left, standing together during the state burial of Queen Elizabeth II.

The proposal divided The Project audience.

A native elder would make an excellent head of state. And another option is both the existing monarchy and the elder, tweeted one woman.

Someone else added, ‘I believe the concept has validity. At least he initiated a conversation, which is more than some individuals do.

But not all concurred

No one can truly believe that a suitable President exists. One viewer remarked, “We value our link to the past and wish to maintain it into the future.”


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